17 November 2007

Calamity Mane

After an anxious, lengthy wait, my Ravelry invitation arrived on the 17th of October. I was - in California-ese - stoked!

Last night, precisely 30 days and four usernames later, I finally logged in for the first time. I'll be honest with you, it was exhilarating.

The number of people involved with this site is staggering; the variation of projects, the ease of usability... all marvelous.

And then I found it: the bitching.

I'd added someone, someone who's blog and design sense I admire, as a friend and happened to look over at the groups to which she belonged, looking to see if there was a group that I might also want to join. One group's logo intrigued me - a Harry Potter graphic with "WTF?" poorly superimposed over it - so I clicked.

Wrong thing to do. The first thing I noticed was a forum discussion titled, "HOLLER IF YOU'D RATHER BE READING DICKENS." Ignoring the ridiculous and aimless use of capitals, I clicked the link. Again, wrong thing to do. It was a group of grownups having a three-page discussion about how reading the classics and reading Harry Potter was mutually exclusive. Most of the people involved in the discussion admitted to reading very little, if any, of the series. Argh!

I'm a big believer that an uninformed opinion is one not worth expressing.

Not only was this group disgusted by the overall fact that adults were reading books that were intended for children, but the pervasive feeling seemed to be that we - adult Harry Potter readers and fanatics, a group to which I vociferously and proudly claim membership - don't know good literature when we read it.

I chose to look somewhere else on the site. Idiotically, I looked at the forums. The first discussion I found was a group of women bitching about how they weren't interested in knitting Clapotis. Now it was my turn to say WTF?! Is this how we're going to spend our time - talking about the fact that someone else's design and effort isn't valuable because we don't favor knitting it? Seriously?

I hope that no person in the "Dickens" discussion group has watched Finding Nemo, Ratatouille or The Incredibles as an adult and enjoyed it - with or without their niece, nephew, little brother/sister, six-year-old, godchild, whomever. There had better not be one single song not aimed at their current demographic that they enjoy. Fine, yes, perhaps the writing of the HP books was not on the same level as Fitzgerald, but that doesn't automatically mean that the storyline wasn't compelling or intriguing - at least to some. By the way, some of us don't like Fitzgerald or Thackery or Dickens (I winced through every last page of This Side of Paradise and found the use of the voice of the author in Vanity Fair an intrusive and unnecessary device. I thought the character of Oliver was one of a whining, twee, weak little boy and didn't enjoy the read nearly as much as that of A Tale of Two Cities). I do hope that this group will remember that Shakespeare was family entertainment when his plays were written, not a badge of highbrow honor.

Per their discussion, I guess that Roald Dahl and Chris Van Allsburgh didn't/don't know what they're doing and that the parents who read those books to their children and enjoyed them are mentally inferior to this group of, apparently, only Oxford-educated knitters.

I can't wait to see the follow-up to the "I hate Clapotis" discussion where they each suggest a new pattern that is more challenging than Clapotis and that teaches a skill that this new pattern epitomizes and can demonstrate. I can't wait! One woman actually commented that she couldn't see herself doing all that knitting to purposely drop stitches. Really? Well, lady, you better vet that Vogue knitting book carefully then, because I think they slipped some drop-stitch patterns in there. The dirty bastards.

Honestly, if you don't want to knit Clapotis, then don't, but don't disparage the people who do like the pattern and do want to knit it.

For the ladies of the HP discussion, come back to me when you've read the books - ALL of them, cover to cover - and then you can comment. And the ladies of the Clapotis discussion, I'll talk to you when you've designed and published a well-loved pattern on Knitty.

I know, I know... free speech and all that rot. You know what I say? Screw you and the natural-fiber-only-it's-fulled-not-felted-I-only-use-bamboo-needles horse you rode in on.

We're supposed to be a community.

Some of us will only knit with natural fibers and some of us don't mind a bit of acrylic. Some of us are Zimmerman-esque in our love of the garter stitch and some of us need to use mathematical formulas in our patterns to make knitting the project worthwhile. Some of us enjoy a little historical fiction and some of us choose Political treatise as our book of choice, some of us like a little bit of Judith Krantz
.

None of us, none of us, is any better than any other person. It's all valuable in the scheme of things. Perhaps we could direct all this time and energy into something useful, like being advocates for knowledge and growth.

I have to go now. I've already finished the Harry Potter books, but I need to go borrow the Clapotis I knitted for my SIL back from her, take pictures of it and post it on Ravelry.

Bite me.

6 comments:

lulubelle said...

I totally understand where you are coming from. I never understood how people can just actively engage in group trashing of something they don't like, as though their opinion of it renders the thing invaluable. Did you know there is a whole online community devoted to hating celebrity chef Rachel Ray? It's so incredibly mean and spiteful, I could not imagine putting that much energy into negativity.
And for the record, I love both the clapotis and Harry Potter ;)

rubycakes said...

Well said!! Had the same experience. And happened across a few of those forums and other similar ones earler today.

Oh well. I guess we should not have been surprised.

Seems like some folks don't really read threads - they just react.

Zenzele said...

I read that thread! I really couldn't stomach more than about five or six posts, thoug. I was completely amazed (and amused) at how much energy is spent on "hating" an inanimate object. If you don't like the Clapotis, knit something else. I'm sure that if Kate Gilbert thought that no one would like the pattern, she wouldn't have made it available - for FREE, no less - to anyone. Honestly, some people really need to get over themselves.

CassieMarie said...

I think people need to take a step back for a second and just take in the fact that they have such wonderful communities to be a part of. I've been noticing this on Etsy a lot lately as well.
I should start a forum called 'I love everything" haha, with no negativity allowed!

Scheherazaad said...

"Screw you and the natural-fiber-only-it's-fulled-not-felted-I-only-use-bamboo-needles horse you rode in on."

ROFL!!!

I'm really glad that my mouth wasn't full when I read that. That is a good one. Thanks for the warning. I hope your future Ravelry experiences are more positive.

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